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Post by Frogger1 on Feb 1, 2005 20:24:54 GMT -5
Your Welcome SagGen. I too have felt it building for some time and finally let it go. Now we can all move on.
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Post by Sparky on Feb 1, 2005 20:32:47 GMT -5
Oh yeah by the way I do support the NHLPA  I do not support any union especially one for millionaire athletes. Just my opinion ;D |
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Post by MidlandSpiritFan on Feb 1, 2005 20:51:50 GMT -5
I do not support any union especially one for millionaire athletes. Just my opinion ;D It's not a true union like the UAW or Steelworkers IMO. The players want the best of both worlds. They want to bargain collectively for various benefits BUT they don't want their wages collectively bargained for. They get to negotiate their own wages independantly of the collective bargaining process. If it's a true union then wages need to be bargained for collectively, not on an individual basis. That is what a cap essentially does. |
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Post by browniesnumber1fan on Feb 1, 2005 21:20:43 GMT -5
how is someone like hatcher going to play against someone who is just out of ohl league(sturgeon)? so hatch and sturgeon go to the boards for a puck and hatch slams sturgy. jeez, splat, sturgeon is done for the season. Now, im not saying sturgeon is weak. im saying he isnt big as or strong as hatch. hasnt been in the nhl and played with the same caliber of hockey players....anyone wanna discuss this ??
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Post by SaginawHockeyFan on Feb 2, 2005 5:45:53 GMT -5
I wouldn't call those players scabs, but I do think Jim makes some valid points about displacing players at the UHL level. I think that is wrong. I agree with this opinion, and was surprised to read this morning that no players have been displaced. You can read the Detroit News article at www.detnews.com/2005/wings/0502/02/A01-77565.htm |
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Post by MidlandSpiritFan on Feb 2, 2005 7:45:18 GMT -5
They won't lose a roster spot but guess who won't be dressing for games when Hatcher and company are in the lineup?? |
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Post by donjohnson on Feb 2, 2005 8:45:06 GMT -5
I just wanted to chime in on this topic because it seems to be getting a little too serious. I believe it was in an ESPN article (probably AP) that showed the analogy that the UHL is comparable to Single A Baseball, which it is. Put yourself in the GM's shoes...you are in last place and you have the opportunity to do a PUBLICITY STUNT and sell out the rest of your games. People in these leagues do publicity stunts any time and I do not have a problem with it and may even go watch them.
Who everybody should really be upset with is Chris Chelios because he had a verbal commitment to play for the Chicago Wolves of the AHL and is now backing out for a publicity stunt. If he really truly wanted to stay in shape, he could play in his hometown in a step below the NHL.
Sports (including minor leagues) are a business and if existing players are bumped to bring better ones in, so be it. As a wise man once told me..."Don't hate the player, hate the game."
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Post by MidlandSpiritFan on Feb 2, 2005 12:18:06 GMT -5
Who everybody should really be upset with is Chris Chelios because he had a verbal commitment to play for the Chicago Wolves of the AHL and is now backing out for a publicity stunt. If he really truly wanted to stay in shape, he could play in his hometown in a step below the NHL. Interesting......I wonder how the Chelios/Wolves relationship would have worked contractually since the Red Wings affiliate in the AHL is the Grand Rapids Griffins?? The Chicago Wolves are the AHL affiliate of the Atlanta Thrashers. |
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Post by CMUBrent on Feb 2, 2005 16:23:00 GMT -5
I just wanted to chime in on this topic because it seems to be getting a little too serious. I believe it was in an ESPN article (probably AP) that showed the analogy that the UHL is comparable to Single A Baseball, which it is. Put yourself in the GM's shoes...you are in last place and you have the opportunity to do a PUBLICITY STUNT and sell out the rest of your games. People in these leagues do publicity stunts any time and I do not have a problem with it and may even go watch them. Who everybody should really be upset with is Chris Chelios because he had a verbal commitment to play for the Chicago Wolves of the AHL and is now backing out for a publicity stunt. If he really truly wanted to stay in shape, he could play in his hometown in a step below the NHL. Sports (including minor leagues) are a business and if existing players are bumped to bring better ones in, so be it. As a wise man once told me..."Don't hate the player, hate the game." I agree 100%. This is a great move for the Mechanics, both on the ice and off. When your team is dead last in the standings and in attendence, you have to do something. I believe Chelios is currently an NHL free agent, so it didn't really matter who he played for in the AHL. |
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Post by browniesnumber1fan on Feb 2, 2005 19:31:26 GMT -5
yeah but why would cheli play in chicago, he moved his whole family here to michigan when he was traded, it makes more sense to play for motor city mechanics..i'd like to attend a game and watch what happens when they play flint...hAHAHAHA
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Post by MidlandSpiritFan on Feb 2, 2005 20:36:33 GMT -5
"Where are the new boys??" They might as well not be there. Flint leads 5-0 with a couple of minutes to go in the 2nd period!!! ;D
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Post by MidlandSpiritFan on Feb 2, 2005 21:37:42 GMT -5
"Where are the new boys??" They might as well not be there. Flint leads 5-0 with a couple of minutes to go in the 2nd period!!! ;D Attendance was announced as 4,421 in Flint tonight. I assume that is a ;D "sell out" ;D at the Perani Arena?? Flint beat the Mechanics 5-1. I only heard Hatcher's name mentioned during the web broadcast so I'm guessing that Chelios and Draper did not play tonight. |
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Post by CMUBrent on Feb 2, 2005 21:42:55 GMT -5
i'd like to attend a game and watch what happens when they play flint...hAHAHAHA Final from tonight's game: Flint Generals 5 Motor City Mechanics 1 Hatcher scored the Mechanics goal, but was on the ice for three Gens goals. ;D |
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Post by newfan77 on Feb 2, 2005 22:02:39 GMT -5
Unfortunately I was unable to attend the game because I got the flu. I will be waiting for SagGensFan to give a report on the game.
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Post by Sparky on Feb 2, 2005 22:04:32 GMT -5
So many quotes to respond to, I'll start with this one: Hatcher scored the Mechanics goal, but was on the ice for three Gens goals. ;D Must be a bit humbling when your an NHL top caliber defenseman and your on the ice for three goals against a UHL team. Next, MidlandSpiritFan Good points! I agree, but that's what makes it worse, the best of both worlds! Does anyone know who owns the Detroit UHL team? Could it be a friend of the guys and they are doing a favor? |
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