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Post by kingpin794 on Mar 29, 2014 14:42:58 GMT -5
Time to look forward to next season
Possible returnees:
Sadowy
Kea (OA)
Addison
Lodge
Moutrey
Clarke
Bennett
Alexeev
Payne (OA)
Stephens
Cairns (OA)
Graham (OA)
Prophet
De Sousa
Orban
Holmes
Callaghan (OA)
Ringuette (OA)
Paterson (OA)
Serebryakov
I like the core of that group that's coming back. Guys like Addison, Sadowy, Holmes, Orban, Clarke, Bennett, Stephens and De Sousa out performed the vets on this team this year. That was part of the reason this team didn't do as well as they should have. Your 19 year olds shouldn't be getting out hustled and out played by 16 and 17 year olds. That being said these hard working 16 and 17 year olds are now going to be the ones asked to carry the load next year and I'm ok with that. Also either one of or both of Alexeev and Serebryakov will be gone next year because picks in the import draft can't be traded anymore.
As for prospects in the system:
G-Boyd DiClemente (96, Whitby, OJHL): 28 GP, 19-7-0-2, 2.85 GAA, 0.902 SV%
G-David Ovsjannikov (97, signed), couldn't find stats on him.
D-Marcus Crawford (Signed) (97, Whitby, OJHL): 52 GP, 8 G, 13 A
D-TJ Melancon (96, Cobourg, OJHL): 51 GP, 2 G, 16 A
F-Jackson Bales (97, Oakville, OJHL): 8 GP, 1 G, 0 A
F-Christian Rajic (97, Oakville, OJHL): 4 GP, 0 G, 1 A
F-Kyle Connor (96, Youngstown, USHL): 45 GP, 23 G, 38 A (more for 2015-16 if he is a first round pick)
Taking all this into account this is my very very early roster projection:
Moutrey-Sadowy-Cairns
Lodge-Stephens-Payne
Clarke-Bennett-Addison
Import-Alexeev-1st round pick
Prophet-De Sousa
Orban-Callaghan
Crawford-Holmes
DiClemente
Ovsjannikov
Thoughts?
SIDE NOTE: I would consider Lodge, Moutrey and Payne as trade bait this off season.
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Post by FreelandSpirit on Mar 29, 2014 18:49:50 GMT -5
I see us being big sellers this off season. We tried to win this season and went nowhere. Time to move some guys and recoup some picks. Would be surprised to see Moutrey, Lodge, or Payne back as they can be moved to contenders. I would say we bring back Callaghan and Carins as oas and trade for a 3rd. Graham costs us a 2nd to keep next season so I doubt he comes back even though it would be nice.
Also, Nikita and Andrey are both drafted by the same team over in Russia I believe. Would be weird to see one go and not the other. Neither got much pt down the stretch. If they both go I'd rather take one solid import this year and take a flyer in the 2nd. We are set up for a really high pick next offseason.
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Post by USAhockey on Mar 29, 2014 18:51:51 GMT -5
I have a feeling Saginaw will be making a lot of trades this summer for draft picks, seeing as we have a lot of "potential" over agers next season. In my opinion, Paterson is gone most likely to the ECHL , Lodge or Moutrey will be traded as stated earlier. It's going to be interesting to see where the GM takes this team this offseason. I think we will have a new goalie, as I have a feeling Nikita will be gone.
Should be fun. I can't wait for next season and MAYBE finally another division championship and maybe a western conf championship and well you know the rest.
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Post by IGive1 on Mar 30, 2014 13:51:14 GMT -5
Severely overpaying for Jesse Graham has come back to bite the Spirit. Could we have least made the playoffs without him? Absolutely. Could we have been eliminated in the first round (again) without him? Of course. Not a criticism of Graham, just the too high price they paid. No second round pick this year. Not a good way to begin another new 3 year plan.
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Post by ohlhcky on Mar 30, 2014 15:37:06 GMT -5
Graham probably back can be moved for atleast two 2nds.
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Post by bpfox on Mar 30, 2014 16:05:34 GMT -5
Severely overpaying for Jesse Graham has come back to bite the Spirit. Could we have least made the playoffs without him? Absolutely. Could we have been eliminated in the first round (again) without him? Of course. Not a criticism of Graham, just the too high price they paid. No second round pick this year. Not a good way to begin another new 3 year plan. Just curious, why do you keep talking about another three year plan? What makes you think next year's team will not be better than this year's team? The three year plan is such an old model very few teams, if any, use it anymore. More often than not, the three year plan doesn't come into play unless there is a coaching change. Are you expecting a coaching change? Seriously, I would love to see a well thought out post from you based on solid reasoning. You're a smart hockey guy, why always go negative. From where I sit, next year's team is going to be just as good, if not better, than this year's team. All they need is to have another good draft and make an off season trade for a starting goalie and they are off and running. |
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Post by eric8199 on Mar 30, 2014 16:38:26 GMT -5
Every new year is always doom and gloom, we won't compete, blah blah blah. It'd be nice to make a run for a championship once in a while, but we generally have a pretty solid team every year.
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Post by bpfox on Mar 30, 2014 17:08:41 GMT -5
Every new year is always doom and gloom, we won't compete, blah blah blah. It'd be nice to make a run for a championship once in a while, but we generally have a pretty solid team every year. Eric, that is the new model. Quite frankly, I'm not in it for the championships. I'm in it because I love the game of hockey and I want to be entertained. I've never been a big fan of the "buyers and sellers" mentality. I mean would you rather be looking the Plymouth model (make the playoffs every year) or the Erie model where you have a great team every 10 - 12 years and pretty much suck every year in between. I don't ever expect this team to be like London, but rather more like the Soo or Guelph. You know the kind of team that is always solid and finishes somewhere between 1st and 3rd in the division and never has to worry about not making the playoffs. We've been there and it sucked. I much prefer the "re-load" vs "re-build" model. |
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Post by ohlhcky on Mar 30, 2014 18:22:22 GMT -5
Saginaw 9 years in a row making the playoffs
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Post by eric8199 on Mar 30, 2014 20:39:33 GMT -5
Eric, that is the new model. Quite frankly, I'm not in it for the championships. I'm in it because I love the game of hockey and I want to be entertained. I've never been a big fan of the "buyers and sellers" mentality. I mean would you rather be looking the Plymouth model (make the playoffs every year) or the Erie model where you have a great team every 10 - 12 years and pretty much suck every year in between. I don't ever expect this team to be like London, but rather more like the Soo or Guelph. You know the kind of team that is always solid and finishes somewhere between 1st and 3rd in the division and never has to worry about not making the playoffs. We've been there and it sucked. I much prefer the "re-load" vs "re-build" model. Not to mention it's hard to fill the seats when we're a contender. Can you imagine trying to fill them if we were as bad as Erie was a couple years ago? Based on the last several years, I agree with you. No reason to think we'll deviate from that model. And I'd rather see a team that can win any week than have a championship. |
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Post by spiritfan8 on Mar 30, 2014 22:27:51 GMT -5
Kea, Payne and probably Graham are gone. Paterson is gone because Petr Mrasic will be moving up to the Wings next year, meaning there is an open spot for a goalie. I expect Lodge to be traded. That means OA spots would be Cairns-Callaghan-Ringuette, and while I don't dislike any of them, they don't produce enough to take up an OA spot. Team could probably carry one of them but not all three. Of course, nothing in life is more iffy than trying to predict your team's OAs 5 months before the season starts. If message boards throughout the Internet are to be believed (half believed, more accurately) then the Spirit have a lot of guys who want to be traded. That will bear watching, even if it's completely untrue.
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Post by hatethewhalers on Mar 31, 2014 8:13:49 GMT -5
I fully expect Paterson back next year based on the Wings philosophy with developing players. I don't know about Mrazek moving up because I don't see room for him with Howard and Gustafsen already up there. Let's put it this way, I hope he's back just so we don't have to trade away young talent to get an experienced goalie. We need to acquire picks and/or talent not trade it away right now.
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Post by kingpin794 on Mar 31, 2014 9:14:06 GMT -5
Paterson is signed. He's gone. Even if he's just a back up in the ECHL. He's gone.
I still think we're alright if we can sign DiClemente. Haven't seen anything about him being committed to an NCAA program at this point. If we can't, then it's time to start shopping.
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Post by IGive1 on Mar 31, 2014 10:36:29 GMT -5
Graham probably back can be moved for atleast two 2nds. If he turns pro, they get nothing |
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Post by IGive1 on Mar 31, 2014 10:37:23 GMT -5
Saginaw 9 years in a row making the playoffs 80% of the teams each year make the playoffs. Is it really that big of an accomplishment? |
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